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Re: 2008-2009 Champions League H2H Draft Thread

Postby samo » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:36 pm

2.09 Chauncey Billups (PG - DET)
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Re: 2008-2009 Champions League Draft Commentary

Postby nebgib5 » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:43 pm

Rounders Block wrote:
nebgib5 wrote:Question: Is the draft order for the Roto league the opposite of that of the H2H league?


Na it's gonna be randomized again.

Why would anyone be thinking about adding a 14th round when there are much more significant inequities like this? :-?
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Re: 2008-2009 Champions League Draft Commentary

Postby jphanned » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:53 pm

Don't know how I am supposed to address that when you were given a while to speak up and say something but waited until you got a late 1st round pick. It's easy for you to speak up now. ;-) We had this discussion already before the draft order was even determined and I don't remember you objecting to it.
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Re: 2008-2009 Champions League H2H Draft Thread

Postby thelimey » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:52 pm

2.10 Rashard Lewis (SF - ORL)
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Re: 2008-2009 Champions League Draft Commentary

Postby nebgib5 » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:57 pm

Could you link me to that discussion? Don't remember it, but I wasn't really present for a lot of the formation of the Octagon Rules, so it's likely I missed it. I understand not changing the rules midstream, and I'm cool with that, but it seems like a bit of a puzzling initial decision, given all the effort towards eliminating luck and variance and making the Octagon an entirely skill-based pursuit. I don't mean to whine, since I didn't even earn my spot in this league and am grateful to be in it ( :-B ), but it's a rule change I will advocate for next season.
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Re: 2008-2009 Champions League Draft Commentary

Postby jphanned » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:00 am

It was actually over the last 3-4 pages of the Champions League thread, which I had to delete along with the two First Division league threads to avoid clutter with the draft starting and all. We can definitely revisit it again during the off-season though and hash it out again.
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Re: 2008-2009 Champions League Draft Commentary

Postby samo » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:07 am

nebgib5 wrote:Could you link me to that discussion? Don't remember it, but I wasn't really present for a lot of the formation of the Octagon Rules, so it's likely I missed it. I understand not changing the rules midstream, and I'm cool with that, but it seems like a bit of a puzzling initial decision, given all the effort towards eliminating luck and variance and making the Octagon an entirely skill-based pursuit. I don't mean to whine, since I didn't even earn my spot in this league and am grateful to be in it ( :-B ), but it's a rule change I will advocate for next season.

I believe we had the discussion after the Octagon H2H draft order was randomized. We've actually had the discussion several times this year and last year. Its not in the rules specifically b/c the 2nd league is technically optional. The rules simply state that all drafts will be randomized. The arguments for and against are pretty generic. Reversing the order works reasonably well for the managers on the "ends" but the "middle" draft spots (i.e. 6 and 7) then complain they're being forced to draft in the same spot twice. In our recent discussion, geodbear acknowledged he and a few others had high picks in both drafts last season and I complained (a bit) that I had low picks in both drafts. What primarily sunk me last season and caused me to lose out on a chance to compete for the Top 3 spots was not that I had two low draft spots but that I drafted Kirk Hinrich in both leagues, which pretty much knocked me out of contention. Still nabbed a Top 6 spot though. I'd argue a manager in this league should be able to win from any draft position.
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Re: 2008-2009 Champions League Draft Commentary

Postby nebgib5 » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:39 am

Cool, sounds like an off-season discussion is the way to go. I won't draw people's attention away from drafting any more. ;-D
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Re: 2008-2009 Champions League H2H Draft Thread

Postby bokzg » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:01 am

2.11 Marcus Camby (C - LAC)

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Re: 2008-2009 Champions League Draft Commentary

Postby baller crimson » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:05 am

Wow, you guys are straight up flyin' through this thing... ;-D
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