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Re: 2008 Check IN

Postby ChipaDub » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:34 pm

sweet, we got the rook :-b
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2008 - 2009 Draft Thread - With Draft log

Postby evoVIII » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:06 pm

*DRAFT DATE SET FOR SEPT 1*

-You will have 24 hours to make your pick. Please do not use the entire time if not necessary.
-You must (absolutely must) PM the next manager who drafts after you.
-Once the person selected before you picks, your clock begins.
-If your time period passes, than the next person picking can make their pick. You can then make up your pick at anytime in the draft. If you miss your next pick, than chipadub and I will draft for the absent manager based off highest cumulative bballmonster rankings. If you miss a third pick, you can possibly be replaced.
-If you will be leaving for an extended period of time, PLEASE, pm chipadub and/or myself with any information. Either tell us to draft for you with a list give by you, or have another "neutral" cafe member draft for you who you asked.
-Trading picks is allowed, please post them in the trade thread.
-DO NOT change your picks after you made them under any circumstances. NO EDITING or DELETING.
-DO NOT MENTION UNDRAFTED PLAYERS IN THE DISCUSSION THREAD.

Draft Order:

Round 1
Rnd Pick Team / Owner Player Selected

1 1 baller7037 / Monta Ellis
1 2 evoVIII / Jason Richardson
1 3 drballho / Andrew Bynum
1 4 jasonuoft / Gerald Wallace
1 5 wakeupmrwest / Antawn Jamion
1 6 Mimicker7 / Mike Dunleavy
1 7 Chipadub / Greg Oden
1 8 Saldogg /Michael Beasley
1 9 Nene / Andrei Kirilenko
1 10 Lilstinkylynx / Mehmet Okur
1 11 TheJordanRulz / Mike Miller
1 12 Caveman Doctor / Lamar Odom

Round 2
Rnd Pick Team / Owner Player Selected
2 1 Caveman Doctor / Ray Allen
2 2 TheJordanRulz / Josh Howard
2 3 Caveman Doctor (via trade from Lilstinkylynx) / Maurice Williams
2 4 Nene / Jamal Crawford
2 5 Saldogg / jason terry
2 6 Chipadub / Andris Biedrins
2 7 Mimicker7 / Brad Miller
2 8 wakeupmrwest / Al Horford
2 9 jasonuoft / Corey Maggette
2 10 drballho / Peja Stojakovic
2 11 evoVIII/ Andre Miller
2 12 baller7037 / Luol Deng

Round 3
Rnd Pick Team / Owner Player Selected
3 1 baller7037 / Samuel Dalembert
3 2 evoVIII / Andrew Bogut
3 3 drballho / Stephen Jackson
3 4 jasonuoft / Emeka Okafor
3 5 wakeupmrwest / Tyson Chandler
3 6 Mimicker7 / Leandro Barbosa
3 7 Chipadub / David Lee
3 8 Saldogg / Al Harrington
3 9 Nene / Tracy McGrady
3 10 Lilstinkylynx / Randy Foye
3 11 TheJordanRulz / Mike Bibby
3 12 Caveman Doctor / Zydrunas Ilgauskas

Round 4
Rnd Pick Team / Owner Player Selected
4 1 Lilstinkylynx (via trade from Caveman Doctor) / Anthony Parker
4 2 TheJordanRulz / TJ Ford
4 3 Lilstinkylynx / Joakim Noah
4 4 Nene / Rajon Rondo
4 5 Saldogg / Tony Parker
4 6 Chipadub / Troy Murphy
4 7 Mimicker7 / Richard Hamilton
4 8 wakeupmrwest / Richard Jefferson
4 9 jasonuoft / Raymond Felton
4 10 drballho / Jamario Moon
4 11 evoVIII / Ben Gordon
4 12 baller7037 / Zach Randolph

Round 5
Rnd Pick Team / Owner Player Selected
5 1 baller7037 / Shaquille O'neal
5 2 evoVIII / John Salmons
5 3 drballho / Ronnie Brewer
5 4 jasonuoft / Charlie Villaneuva
5 5 wakeupmrwest / Shane Battier
5 6 Mimicker7 / Kenyon Martin
5 7 Chipadub / Francisco Garcia
5 8 Saldogg / Marvin Williams
5 9 Nene / OJ Mayo
5 10 Lilstinkylynx / Beno Udrih
5 11 TheJordanRulz / Kirk Hinrich
5 12 Caveman Doctor / Jameer Nelson

Round 6
Rnd Pick Team / Owner Player Selected
6 1 Caveman Doctor /J.R. Smith
6 2 TheJordanRulz / Raja Bell
6 3 Lilstinkylynx / Mickael Pietrus
6 4 Nene / Nene Hilario + Pat Garrity
6 5 Saldogg / Derrick Rose
6 6 Chipadub / Rudy Fernandez
6 7 Mimicker7 Grant Hill
6 8 wakeupmrwest / Ricky Davis
6 9 jasonuoft / Al Thorton
6 10 drballho / Kevin Love
6 11 evoVIII / Tayshaun Prince
6 12 baller7037 / Thaddeus Young

Round 7
Rnd Pick Team / Owner Player Selected
7 1 baller7037 / Tyrus Thomas
7 2 evoVIII / Brendan Haywood
7 3 drballho / Ben Wallace
7 4 jasonuoft / Marcus Williams
7 5 wakeupmrwest / Nick Collison
7 6 Mimicker7 / Earl Watson - PG - OKC
7 7 Chipadub / Rafer Alston (PG - Hou)
7 8 Saldogg / Mike Conley Jr.
7 9 Nene / Luis Scola (PF/C-HOU)
7 10 Lilstinkylynx / Chris Duhon
7 11 TheJordanRulz / Drew Gooden
7 12 Caveman Doctor/ Hakim Warrick (F - Mem)

Round 8
Rnd Pick Team / Owner Player Selected
8 1 Caveman Doctor / Jeff Green (F - OKC)
8 2 TheJordanRulz / Ramon Sessions
8 3 Lilstinkylynx / Mario Chalmers
8 4 Nene / Steve Blake (PG-POR)
8 5 Saldogg / kendrick perkins C - BOS
8 6 Chipadub / Ryan gomes F - MIN
8 7 Mimicker7 Chris Quinn
8 8 wakeupmrwest Russell Westbrook
8 9 jasonuoft Marc Gasol
8 10 drballho Matt Barnes
8 11 evoVIII Boris Diaw
8 12 baller7037 Bobby Simmons

Round 9
Rnd Pick Team / Owner Player Selected
9 1 baller7037 DeShawn Stevenson
9 2 evoVIII Chris Wilcox
9 3 drballho James Posey
9 4 jasonuoft / Udonis Haslem
9 5 wakeupmrwest/ Brook Lopez
9 6 Mimicker7 /Jason Maxiell
9 7 Chipadub / 9.07 Luke Ridnour (PG - Mil)
9 8 Saldogg /darius miles
9 9 Nene / 9.09 Andray Blatche (SF/PF/C-WAS)
9 10 Lilstinkylynx / Amir Johnson
9 11 TheJordanRulz / Wilson Chandler
9 12 Caveman Doctor / 9.12 Travis Outlaw (F - Por)
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Welcome baller7037, drhoball, jasonuoft and Nene

Postby evoVIII » Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:45 pm

Welcome guys to the extraordinary league of ballers.

It will be great to compete with you all and thankful that you have taken up the challenge of taking up teams that were not choices of your own. Though i must say, the teams you are taking up are certainly stocked with talent.
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Re: Keeper Selections

Postby baller7037 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:15 am

I am changing my keepers selection. my new keepers are:

1. jason kidd
2. caron butler
3. david west
4. devin harris

I changed my mind from josh howard and devin harris
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Re: 2008 Check IN

Postby CarnivalMafia » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:48 pm

Sorry I´m late. Been on vacation and have not been on line.

I wouldn´t have been able to do a slow draft this year so glad to see you got someone to take over my team.

I believe baller7037 stepped in for me so Good Luck Baller!

And good luck to everyone in the league this year.

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2008-2009 Keeper Core Preliminary Thoughts

Postby CavemanDoctor » Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:54 am

So we have all our keeper selections in place. I wanted to type up this list to have it all in one place, for re-draft convenience purposes. Also, it's never too early to start analyzing and trashtalking. Here are our list of managers and their keepers:

Lilstinkylynx:
1. K. Bryant
2. J. Johnson
3. E. Brand
4. Y. Ming

CavemanDoctor
1. C. Paul
2. R. Lewis
3. A. Jefferson
4. C. Kaman

TheJordanRulz
1. K. Garnett
2. C. Bosh
3. T. Duncan
4. H. Turkoglu

evoVIII
1. S. Marion
2. R. Gay
3. R. Wallace
4. R. Artest

wakeupmrwest
1. D. Wade
2. S. Nash
3. V. Carter
4. K. Martin

Mimicker7
1. A. Stoudemire
2. M. Redd
3. J. Smith
4. B. Roy

baller7037
1. C. Butler
2. J. Kidd
3. D. Harris
4. D. West

jasonuoft
1. P. Pierce
2. P. Gasol
3. C. Billups
4. D. Granger

ChipaDub
1. G. Arenas
2. C. Boozer
3. J. Calderon
4. A. Iguodala

Nene
1. L. Aldridge
2. M. Camby
3. D. Nowitzki
4. M. Ginobili

drhoball
1. B. Davis
2. C. Anthony
3. A. Iverson
4. J. O'Neal

saldogg
1. L. James
2. D. Williams
3. K. Durant
4. D. Howard

Which teams do you think have the best cores, in terms of competing in 2008-2009?

My thoughts: Lilstinylynx, jasonuoft, and ChipaDub have the strongest cores.

If Yao can stay healthy, Lil's team will be extremely hard to beat, contingent upon his re-draft, of course. He has two stud big men, and two stud guards, all who complement each others' games.

jasonuoft picked up a great team. He already has an elite PG, an elite C, and two elite wingmen.

I really like ChipaDub's team. Not only is it currently solid, but I feel it has a lot of upward potential as well. Gilbert could have a big year, we already know what Calderon is capable of, and Iguodala still has a lot of room for improvement.

Turning to my team, I feel my keeper core has gotten weaker. I think I have the #1 player in the game in Paul and Lewis is perenially underrated. I'm expecting big things from Jefferson but of course he has his weaknesses. I'm not sure what to think of Kaman, with Camby being on the roster as well. With that said, I feel good going into the re-draft as I was able to acquire the #15 pick from Lilstinkylynx as part of our Yao-Jefferson trade. I'll have the 12th, 13th, and 15th picks in the draft. There's still a good amount of value on the board there, so I'm happy about getting what amounts to three 5th rounders.
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Re: 2008-2009 Keeper Core Preliminary Thoughts

Postby Lilstinkylynx » Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:36 am

My Favorite Teams Predraft are Mimicker7, jasonuoft, and my own team with a huge ? for my own team.

I will speak about my team first. Although I liked my trade with Caveman, my team is filled with 3 possible first round studs either coming off injury or injury prone. I mainly traded for Yao because I wanted to lock up a good core of ft and fg percentage players. If I can get a full season out of all three, it allows me a huge luxury during the draft. Seeing that I basically have three 3rd round picks... equivalent to 8th round value... I feel like I can draft a group of guys that act basically as fillers; complimenting the deficiencies in my team. If any of my core players get injured, my draft strategy will again backfire on me. Nevertheless, I took a huge gamble last season giving up Caron for Brand the entire season and was able to squeek out a 2nd place finish. Hopefully that gamble and my gamble on Yao will pay off for me this season.

If I were able to choose teams based on the core keepers we currently have, Jasonuoft would be top of my list. His team is a very roto friendly team filling every key position with steady reliable players. This means he will have a great luxury on how he can modify his team during the draft depending on which players get picked.

Mimicker7 to me has the scariest team.I see Amare and Josh Smith just plain carrying his team to a top three finish almost by themselves.

Cave... I don't think your core got any weaker. I also feel like if I were in your position, I would like the idea of picks 12,13,and 15. I feel like their is great value there and I feel like we will again be quite scared with the team you will be building with those picks.

Good luck to the rest and lets get the new season going.
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Re: 2008-2009 Keeper Core Preliminary Thoughts

Postby evoVIII » Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:43 am

Lilstinkylynx:
1. K. Bryant
2. J. Johnson
3. E. Brand
4. Y. Ming

Balanced backcourt and front court. Though I'm a bit skeptical of Yao given prior history and his Olympic duties. Like with all keepers, injuries will be key but then that applies to all teams. TO's will be heavy. If you had kept Caron, I think you would have taken 1st place. Regardless, Caron and Brand at this point are of similar value but Brand balances your team far more. So it works out for this season. I'm not a big fan of the trade you pulled off, it's the opposite of what you did last season. Last season you take a hit for the future and in this one you did the reverse. Yao's value over Jefferson is up for debate. I admire your guts to make that trade considering everyone else has dropped Yao down the list.

jasonuoft
1. P. Pierce
2. P. Gasol
3. C. Billups
4. D. Granger

My favourite to win assuming if all managers stay active. PG and a C and two more in between. Fairly low TO's and solid %'s. I love efficient teams. Though a bit long in the tooth with regards to age but I don't see any drop off in production this year. Billups is a bit more of question mark with the changes in detroit. Gasol is an injury issue much like Yao but less so. Though I do worry about Pierce's playing time as well and in light of the fact that winning a championship may remove some motivation. Granger has the potential to really give some value as a 4th keeper and young to boot.

ChipaDub
1. G. Arenas
2. C. Boozer
3. J. Calderon
4. A. Iguodala

I'm a huge fan of Calderon. Though as I've been burned in the past, I need to see two running seasons of high performance to really confirm stardom for real. The remaining 3 are not the type of players I'm a fan of due to heavy TO's and deficient in some other categories. Arenas is capable of first round value, there's no doubt about that but again injury issue rears it's head on him and Boozer. Boozer gives great value but is not a shot blocker. Overall, this is a stat stuffing team that will be heavy in TO's and will most likely take the AST crown.

Special mention goes to Caveman's team. I'm a believer that draft is more important than the keepers. Having that extra draft pick boost, in what I think is still a relatively strong draft pool is huge.

I learned from last season in going really forward heavy and favoring youth too much. Unfortunately, I'm all forwards again and I will win technicals category :~( Aside from that I certainly have a tough draft in front of me and I am thinking about my draft strategy and overall goal. I'm likely to win the TO crown and be last in assists for the same reason.

To sum it up, everything is up in the air and I welcome the competition. I hope there is no pre draft or during draft injury surprises. ;-D
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Re: 2008-2009 Keeper Core Preliminary Thoughts

Postby baller7037 » Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:30 am

Wow I think we have our first injury. manu ginobili reinjured his ankle again against team USA. He limped off the court in severe pain. looks like manu will have to battle another season with an injured ankle
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Re: 2008-2009 Keeper Core Preliminary Thoughts

Postby Nene » Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:48 am

baller7037 wrote:Wow I think we have our first injury. manu ginobili reinjured his ankle again against team USA. He limped off the court in severe pain. looks like manu will have to battle another season with an injured ankle


Fan-effing-tastic :-/
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