2012/13 season discussion

[RocketsDWM]

so what is my punishment?

eternal unhappiness

[nsink]

I remember the days when owners were throwing max bids left and right on players, everybody is stingy with there cap nowadays.

Very stingy. I like it - shows that owners are planning for the long-term. Maybe real NBA owners should embrace this restraint.

But then u see the ak47 bids and shake your head

[Fenris-77]

Cnote has until noon tomorrow to announce that he's waiving players to make his Wade bid legal.

This is what I was talking about. It sounds a lot like permission to waive a player after making a bid so that you can get under the cap and make that bid legal after the fact. Sorry if I misinterpreted.

It sounds a lot like a one off solution to a middle of the night problem. I went on to specifically say that it wasn't supposed to be the usual process. In order to work as a usual process the waives would have to be included in the bid in question and be dependent on it being the winning bid.

The real problem here is that the cap-hold bid system is a piece of shit in many ways and causes as many problems as it solves.

I don't have a real problem with it. It just requires managers to put a bit of thought into what they're doing, which isn't a bad thing. The alternative 'free-for-all and sort it out later' system would be the real dog's breakfast.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I suggested a better alternative when we started this league, and I suggested it again every time we've talked about making changes. What we're using is not the best of some poor options, it's just kind of poor (it works, but it's clunky and doesn't pass the laugh test in some situations). Some kind of free-for-all certainly is not the only other option though.

[RocketsDWM]

I remember the days when owners were throwing max bids left and right on players, everybody is stingy with there cap nowadays.

Very stingy. I like it - shows that owners are planning for the long-term. Maybe real NBA owners should embrace this restraint.

But then u see the ak47 bids and shake your head

Fair enough.

[cnote23]

so what is my punishment?

eternal unhappiness

I already have that

[raffrox01]

Just another point of clarification.

If for example I was to drop Amir Johnson does he count as being a vet in the last year of a 2 or 3 year contract so his buy out would be 25%? Or is he counted as a 75% buy out?

Thanks.

[So-Tex]

Just another point of clarification.

If for example I was to drop Amir Johnson does he count as being a vet in the last year of a 2 or 3 year contract so his buy out would be 25%? Or is he counted as a 75% buy out?

Thanks.

I'm still trying to get my mind around the whole buyout thing, so I don't know if I'm getting it right here. But I DO know if you straight out drop Amir, he hits your cap for 75% this season, and 50% every season afterwards.

So, the way I understand it, if Amir is eligible for a buyout, and it's cheaper than just flat out dropping him, that would be the way to go. Or, if he's in the second to last year of his contract and he's eligible for a buyout, you can get him off your books without future costs.

I kinda get that whole part of it, math included - it's telling which guys are eligible for the buyout which throws me.

[dasein]

Just another point of clarification.

If for example I was to drop Amir Johnson does he count as being a vet in the last year of a 2 or 3 year contract so his buy out would be 25%? Or is he counted as a 75% buy out?

Thanks.

That red box in the spreadsheet means it's a partially guaranteed year (vet buyout allowed). So in this case you can buy Amir out for 25% before the start of the season.

[scully19]

If it's red it's 25%.

[raffrox01]

Cool. Thanks.