nsink wrote:I'm a bit confused, cause I thought we didn't need to drop until we won a bid but if I win either or both mcroberts and Livingston I'm dropping taj and Clark for roster space,
It's got nothing to do with the roster space. It's all about the cap space you have left. Sorry if this gets a bit wordy, but it's the only way I have to explain it:
Example: Say you have 2M in cap space left, and you have a maxed out roster. You put a bid for Player X at .5M for one year, and you win that player. You now have to drop a player from your roster to make room for him, yes. HOWEVER
, when you drop that player, you still have to pay 75% for this year, plus 50% for any remaining years on the contract (if any). If there are no remaining years, then it's only the 75%. In this scenario however, it's NOT
an issue, since you had enough cap space to cover the bid AND
pay for the drop.
However, let's say you have 2M in cap space, and want to bid on Player Y, but his auction is currently at 2.25M dollars. What you CAN'T
do is place a bid, with the intention of dropping a player, or players, AFTER
you've won the contract, even if you drop enough in salary to afford BOTH
the new contract and the 75%/50% from the drop. As dasein has stated time and again, under NO circumstances can you go over the cap!
And placing a bid of 2.5M or more on Player X would put you over the cap. It doesn't matter if your roster
is maxed out. And it also doesn't matter that you haven't won him yet. You simply CAN NOT
place that bid legally, because it would put you over the cap - REGARDLESS
of your intentions to drop contracts.
What you CAN DO
is make the drop(s) FIRST
, in order to free up more salary, which you can THEN
use to legally make the bid. So say you do the math, and decide to drop a player whose contract is 4M. You make the post in the "waived players" thread first. You've already done the math and figured for 4M your cost for the waived player would be 3M. This is the amount you STILL HAVE TO PAY
for that contract this season. After figuring this, you've gained 1M in cap space. So now, instead of 2M in cap space remaining, you have 3M. And NOW
you can LEGALLY
bid in the Player X auction because you have enough in cap space to place a competing bid without going over.
Yes, it seems a bit mundane because you HAVE
to go in a certain order to pull it off. But it's there for all of our protection. Not that anyone from this particular group would do it, but if this rule weren't in place, those of us with little cap space remaining could get involved in auctions we would have no business being in, driving the prices higher and higher. Which in turn wouldn't be fair to those managers who DO
have cap space because they have managed their rosters efficiently.
Again, sorry it got a bit wordy...but I hope this explains things a bit clearer.
And remember, it's not about having your roster maxed out! That's NOT
what can keep you from making a bid and acquiring a new player. The ONLY
thing that can keep you from doing that is lack of cap space.