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Re: 38. Ray Allen

Postby silentjim » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:01 pm

porno4mumu wrote:6M(5+5.5+6)


That's an invalid offer. Check your averages.
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Re: 39. Vince Carter

Postby Fenris-77 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:12 pm

6M (6+6)
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Re: 34. Carmelo Anthony

Postby cnote23 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:14 pm

9.75mil (9.75+9.75+9.75+9.75)
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Re: 36. Mehmet Okur

Postby Fenris-77 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:30 pm

OFFER ORIGINALLY POSTED WAS INVALID

:-P Blah. It's late. I'm confused. Never mind.
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Re: 37. Derrick Rose

Postby nguy6280 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:37 pm

13M (13 + 13 + 13 + 13)
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Re: Auction discussion

Postby DVauthrin » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:44 pm

ardilla wrote:A general question about your strategies:

I see some people backloading contracts to older players. Why are you doing that? In general, I see a lot of front and backloading. I can understand backloading on a young player who appears to be improving, or frontloading on an old guy who is slowing down, but I am seeing it on many guys in their prime, and in the opposite direction (frontloading young guys, backloading old guys). What is the idea there?


the idea on backloading old guys has to do with exceeding the 20 mil cap in year one. for example, when I bid on duncan, I backloaded a 4 year deal starting at 9 mil to create the best team for this year while retaining future flexibility as wade's contract drops by 10 mil in year 2 and 3.
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Re: Auction discussion

Postby Fenris-77 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:51 pm

DVauthrin wrote:
ardilla wrote:A general question about your strategies:

I see some people backloading contracts to older players. Why are you doing that? In general, I see a lot of front and backloading. I can understand backloading on a young player who appears to be improving, or frontloading on an old guy who is slowing down, but I am seeing it on many guys in their prime, and in the opposite direction (frontloading young guys, backloading old guys). What is the idea there?


the idea on backloading old guys has to do with exceeding the 20 mil cap in year one. for example, when I bid on duncan, I backloaded a 4 year deal starting at 9 mil to create the best team for this year while retaining future flexibility as wade's contract drops by 10 mil in year 2 and 3.

The downside of this approach is that it could possibly make it more difficult to retain key free agents for those GMs with 2 and 3 year max+ deals. It's complicated to project salary forward more than a year, but given the way our FA and salary matching tie-breaker works I'd be leery of giving out too many back loaded deals for older players. I'm not suggesting that DV is unaware of what I just said either (I'm sure he's perfectly aware) I'm just flipping the rock over to look at the wormy underside.

Mostly I plan to keep my contracts for older players to a number of years equal too or less than my best free agent (3yrs in my case). I want to keep the salary flex to keep big name guys when they hit free agency. Without compromising my ability to win between now and then of course. B-)
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Re: Auction discussion

Postby ardilla » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:53 pm

If Kal looks:

Is Elton Brand won?

Is my bid highest on Jamison?
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Re: Auction discussion

Postby DVauthrin » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:56 pm

Fenris-77 wrote:
DVauthrin wrote:
ardilla wrote:A general question about your strategies:

I see some people backloading contracts to older players. Why are you doing that? In general, I see a lot of front and backloading. I can understand backloading on a young player who appears to be improving, or frontloading on an old guy who is slowing down, but I am seeing it on many guys in their prime, and in the opposite direction (frontloading young guys, backloading old guys). What is the idea there?


the idea on backloading old guys has to do with exceeding the 20 mil cap in year one. for example, when I bid on duncan, I backloaded a 4 year deal starting at 9 mil to create the best team for this year while retaining future flexibility as wade's contract drops by 10 mil in year 2 and 3.

The downside of this approach is that it could possibly make it more difficult to retain key free agents for those GMs with 2 and 3 year max+ deals. It's complicated to project salary forward more than a year, but given the way our FA and salary matching tie-breaker works I'd be leery of giving out too many back loaded deals for older players. I'm not suggesting that DV is unaware of what I just said either (I'm sure he's perfectly aware) I'm just flipping the rock over to look at the wormy underside.

Mostly I plan to keep my contracts for older players to a number of years equal too or less than my best free agent (3yrs in my case). I want to keep the salary flex to keep big name guys when they hit free agency. Without compromising my ability to win between now and then of course. B-)


I'm aware of the risk involved. That said, I knew duncan was a special case that would pair very well with wade(points, boards, blocks, field goal percentage). after rob out bid me, I decided to focus my attention on other players(Josh Smith, Pierce and Iggy) and I got Smith this morning.
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Re: Auction discussion

Postby DVauthrin » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:13 am

Iguodala:

I believe he should be mine as coffeeman made an illegal bid and my bid was made over 24 hours ago. (9.75+10+10.5+10.75)=you can't raise more than 10% of year 1 salary in any year, thus year four is invalid.
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