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Re: 163. Nenad Krstic (BIDDING CLOSED) - DEBATE STILL OPEN

Postby silentjim » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:05 am

The other part that we're ignoring in the example, is that anyone who has spent all of their 65 Million soft cap, technically doesn't have any "Free" money to be bidding in the first place, which makes that example completely irrelevant.
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172. Luc Richard Mbah a Moute

Postby silentjim » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:11 am

.55 M (.55 +.55)
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Re: 177. Thabo Sefolosha

Postby silentjim » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:12 am

I don't think the draft needs to be paused, but I think it doesn't help that you keep offering Min bids to every available player either Kal. :-D
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183. Nick Collison

Postby RedHopeful » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:23 am

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Re: 163. Nenad Krstic (BIDDING CLOSED) - DEBATE STILL OPEN

Postby DVauthrin » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:09 am

KalElen wrote:vote will take time. i'll leave to those who disagree to provide alternatives and put it to vote if there is one. as of now there is just one solution and that is the .26k one.

if 2 capped out teams (or 2 teams with same amount of cap room who both offer their max) offer same contracts roto mini-league will decide


As stated before, i'm fine with non capped teams only having to bid 10K more than a minimum bid from a capped team.
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Re: 163. Nenad Krstic (BIDDING CLOSED) - DEBATE STILL OPEN

Postby Fenris-77 » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:29 am

And counting against the cap too right? Because that's the implication. Kal is also assuming, since he thinks he's correct about min bids, that if he bids second, and bids the minimum, that the other team will lose that player unless they up their bid by 10K and thus have the entire bid come off the cap. So he'd still win tie breakers except against capped out teams.

I just want to make sure, after all this hullabaloo, that we all agree to the same thing. Because I'm ok with outbidding by 10K, but I'm not ok with him winning all min tiebreakers the way he thinks he should. I say he, but this isn't aimed at Kal, he's just the only guy on that particular side of the argument right now. I guess there's several questions...

1. Should capped players be allowed to bid at all?
2. Should minimum offers count against the cap?
3. Should cap maxed teams automatically win tied minimum bids against non cap maxed teams?
4. Should non-capped teams have to spend less than normal to outbid a min offer from a capped team?
5. How much should that amount be set at, if necessary.

My answers..
1. Yes - we've already had guys bid and win, so I'm not for changing it back and having to undo potions of the auction. We can't really change this one even if a majority say no. :-?
2. No, we decided this earlier in the auction and people have already bid using these rules.
3. No. For all the reasons I've listed.
4. Yes, I think this balances things nicely.
5. I'm ok with whatever number people like. 10K or 50K seem the popular answers, I'll say 50K.
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SS&D Trading Block

Postby greyone » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:37 am

Forwards, Forwards & Forwards. :-)

Centers, Centers & Centers. :-]

If you need it. SS&D has got it.

I know there is no trading until the Auction is officially over. Just a public notice for everyone to consider.

Looking for a PG or SG(with PG eligibility) in return.

The ball is in your court. :-B

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Andrea Bargniani - 11M (11+11+11+11)
Mehmet Okur - 7.5M (7.3+7.7)
John Salmons - 5.5M (5.25+5.75)
Charlie Villanueva - 5.5M (5+5.5+6)
Paul Millsap - 5.25M (5.25+5.25+5.25)
Brendan Haywood - 1.5M
Carl Landry - 1.2M (1.2+1.2)
Lamar Odom - 1.2M (1.2+1.2)
Kendrick Perkins - .9M (.9+.9)
Brandon Bass - 250(250+250)
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Re: 183. Nick Collison

Postby porno4mumu » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:56 am

can i bet 150k here? also, what was the ruling on minimum 250k bets? does it count against our cap? i have less than 1mil and i want to spend it wisely =)
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Re: 177. Thabo Sefolosha

Postby KalElen » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:40 am

silentjim wrote:I don't think the draft needs to be paused, but I think it doesn't help that you keep offering Min bids to every available player either Kal. :-D

not every, just those that interest me. having just 4 out of 12 roster spots filled will broaden your interests, trust me :-D
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Re: 183. Nick Collison

Postby KalElen » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:00 pm

where did you get 150k from?
250k doesn't count against your cap if you are under the cap and that's the min you can bet regardless of your cap situation
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