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Re: Non-drafted players and MLE

Postby Fenris-77 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:57 am

TheRobSays wrote:How will it work if we want to bid contracts for players who were not chosen in your "mock" draft? When will this start as well?

Also, with no MLE for this season how will bidding be done for free agents (i.e those on one-week deals) who would then like to be signed for the season? Will there be 12 min offers (lets not do this again!).

Bidding for free agents and one-week deals aren't the same thing, exactly. I did just suggest a format for bidding on free agents in the auction discussion thread - give it a read and see what you think. I don't even know if the league is going to be using 10 day contracts (I don't believe so, but I could be mistaken).
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Re: Non-drafted players and MLE

Postby ardilla » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:54 pm

When multiple teams offer min contracts we will be in a quandary and need a clear an unbiased way to solve the problem. I am fine with using some sort of randomizer.
As to bidding for FAs, the following is in place which would be hard to apply right now:

-when a free agent receives more then one contract offer, he is awarded to a team based on next 3 criteria
1) he is awarded to a team that offers the highest average salary
2) if he receives two or more offers with same average salaries, he is awarded to team depending on offered contract length
-if the average salary is between 25% and 100% of the maximum he is awarded to a team that offers the longest contract
-if the average salary is lower then 25% of the maximum he is awarded to a team that offers the shortest contract
3) if 2 or more teams offer same contract length player is awarded to a team based on a point system defined bellow. thinking behind this system is that when weighing offers players are looking for 4 things: to resign with current team, to play on a best team possible, to get as much play time as possible, to play for a "franchise going in a good direction". in this case "direction" of the organization is gonna be measured by efficiency of its money spending. to determine team's efficiency its salary will be divided by total cat wins from a previous season and teams will be ranked according to the results

-team that is trying to resign its own free agent, gets 10 points

-team success:
0) top 5 teams based on regular season standings form season before last get 5, 4, 3, 2, and 1 point respectively
1) current play-off winner gets 5 points
2) teams that end up 3rd, 5th and 7th in the play-offs get a point each
3) regular season winner gets 16 points
4) regular season runner up gets 14 points
5) team that ended up 3rd in regular season gets 13 points
6) team that ended up 4th in regular season gets 12 points
...
15) team that ended up 15th in regular season gets 1 point

-play time
1) if team has no players eligible to play fa's position under contract it gets 15 points
2) if team has 1 player eligible to play fa's position under contract it gets 11 points
3) if team has 2 players eligible to play fa's position under contract it gets 6 points
4) if team has 3 players eligible to play fa's position under contract it gets 2 point
5) if team has 4 or more players eligible to play fa's position under contract it gets 0 points
if a player is eligible for multiple positions, position that gives the team best chance to sign him is considered when calculating that teams point total. this means that different teams can attempt to "sign a player for a different position"

-team direction
1) top 2 teams get 8 points
2) next 2 teams get 7 points
...
8) last 2 teams get a point each

team with most points gets the player
in case of a tie:
1) resigning team gets the player
2) team with better regular season record wins
3) team with more pt points wins
4) team with better team direction wins


For short-term contracts, the following is in place:

-during the season every team can sign up to 40 one week contracts with free agents. one week contracts will count against the cap as min offers. when a player receives one week offer, he immediately accepts it, so there is no bidding on that player until his one week contract runs out. after one week contract is finished, player goes back to fa list and his former team retains no fa rights over him. this means that any team is free to either offer him guaranteed contract or sign him to one week contract the moment he becomes an fa. once a player receives guaranteed contract offer and bidding on him starts, he is no longer available to sign a one week contract, until his guaranteed contract is waived or runs out and he goes back to fa list


This works in my opinion.
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Re: 163. Nenad Krstic (BIDDING CLOSED) - DEBATE STILL OPEN

Postby ardilla » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:59 pm

The rules clearly state that with contracts below 25% of the cap the FA takes the shortest offer. Nobody wants a long-term minimum contract. If that player has even a moderately good season they are in line for more money. 1 yr, 250K is superior to 2 yr, 250K and that should not change.
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192. Ryan Andersen (ORL) -- LAST ONE!!!

Postby The Thrill » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:03 pm

let the bidding begin.
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Re: 163. Nenad Krstic (BIDDING CLOSED) - DEBATE STILL OPEN

Postby ardilla » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:07 pm

1. yes
2. no
3. yes
4. yes
5. 50K
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Re: Auction discussion

Postby ardilla » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:21 pm

Any chance we can get the Yahoo! league up and sign up? No reason to wait until the last second.
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Re: Auction discussion

Postby scully19 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:13 pm

So when do we open up new players to bid on. We only have 9 active right now, or are we waiting until the draft is completely done?
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Re: 163. Nenad Krstic (BIDDING CLOSED) - DEBATE STILL OPEN

Postby silentjim » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:41 pm

ardilla wrote:The rules clearly state that with contracts below 25% of the cap the FA takes the shortest offer. Nobody wants a long-term minimum contract. If that player has even a moderately good season they are in line for more money. 1 yr, 250K is superior to 2 yr, 250K and that should not change.


We've talked about how the rules need to be fluid and change to what's best for the league.

We're not talking about what's good for the player at this point, we're talking about what's fair when two managers are bidding on a player. We can't speculate what a player would or would not do in real life, but we can say that it's unfair for a team to win a bid on player simply because they no longer have any cap room left.
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Re: 192. Ryan Andersen (ORL) -- LAST ONE!!!

Postby KalElen » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:47 pm

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Re: 163. Nenad Krstic (BIDDING CLOSED) - DEBATE STILL OPEN

Postby ardilla » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:51 pm

It is better for the league to have shorter contracts in general, especially on tiny contracts when these players could blow up this year and be in demand next season.

An amendment is coming to solve the auction situation, other rules that help balance the league don't need to be changed. Higher average value always wins, 50K raise is tiny if you really want that player.
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