Couple of things, and they're nothing major, so don't take this as a knock on you or anything:
4ndrew wrote:Hi everyone, just discovered this thread.
Explain please. Did one of the mods start this thread for you? Or maybe you made the original post, but are now just following up with all the replies? The original post shows it was made by you, but you're saying you "just discovered"? Again, not a big issue...but odd.
4ndrew wrote: As it happens, I was not aware of the unwritten rule that I'd be liable for the contract if I'd failed to pick up the player, as in the rules it simply said the auction would be void which I took to mean "as if it had never happened". I'd discussed the situation with DV prior to the Jorts auction but unfortunately he didn't pick up on my incorrect interpretation.
It's not the "unwritten rule" that you are liable for a contract that's in question. It's the "unwritten rule" that you can forfeit
a contract without it counting against your cap space
. They seem to meet at the same end, but they are
two different things.
I currently have a bid out on Ersan Ilyasova - if he goes off and has a stinker game or two, I can't just "forfeit" the auction because I no longer want him, or change my mind. If I win the auction, but decide to not pick him up, the contract is voided, yes. But the penalty is that it counts against my cap space for the amounts dictated under adding and dropping players (at least, that's the way I understand it). It makes sense when you consider how 7-day contracts work. Managers pick up and drop players on a weekly basis in this league...unless, said player is in an auction, at which point he's off limits (again, the way I understand things). Otherwise think about it - a manager could use standard auctions to constantly lock players up in "limbo", as opposed to allowing teams who might need those players on a week to week basis the chance to pick them up with 7-day deals.
Now, in your case, Harrellson got hurt while your auction was going on. It makes perfect sense that you wouldn't want to pick him up, even I can see that. But you need to communicate that with the committee, so they can rule on such a situation.
As Jim and DV have both made arguments for your case, it's perfectly fine with me that you were allowed to void the auction. What everyone has been questioning in this thread is that you did so without asking first
. Or, at least it looks
that way, given it's your ID on the original post. Maybe one of the other mods made the post for you, which is fine - and if that's the case, I apologize for insinuating that you were taking things into your own hands without consulting the committee first.
And remember, no one is here to bust your balls or anything - trust me, I have firsthand experience with making mountains out of molehills,
and I've realized that pretty quick!
If you contact one of the committee members and present your case of why you don't want to continue with an auction, or why you decided not to pick up a player, even if it's something as simple as "I just don't want the guy anymore", I'm sure they can make a ruling which will satisfy everyone - especially when we're talking about players who are way deep
in the pecking order of things.
But you can't just go starting auctions on guys you don't plan on picking up, just for the sake of starting an auction. In the end, you'll end up keeping a player, or players, from being available for some other manager who might want to use them for 7-day deals. OR
, some other squad who may be trying to rebuild, or simply compete in the standings.
4ndrew wrote:Lastly, I'd ask that when rulings are made, the rules document be amended to reflect the change or clarification. At the moment, there's still nothing about contracts being binding if you forfeit an auction - you may assume its obvious without having to be written, but it wasn't obvious to me & may not be to another new manager in the future unless clearly stated in the rules.
Yes, the rules do need to be adjusted to make sure these things are made clear to future managers who may join the league. I'm sure dasein can come up with something the committee can agree on.
It's all about the communication buddy...just keep someone in the know, and things can be worked out, plain and simple.