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Re: finalized Free Agent Groups thread(link included)

Postby scully19 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:10 am

The few cases for max contracts it does matter. That list isn't long. Doing anything for any others is a waste of resources.

Sorry, I said average but I didn't mean that, we had a mathematical decider before.

15% might be a little useful in cases where you have cap space next year but not this year and can backload contracts more then. Really though, on a contract with a first year value of 10 mill. you increase of 10% is 11 mill the second year, 13.3m for last year. 15% is 11.5 second year and 15.2. So .5 mill the second year and 1.9 in the fourth year. Is this really worth the effort of tracking every player and their contract lengths for?
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Re: finalized Free Agent Groups thread(link included)

Postby RocketsDWM » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:32 am

If I want to bid on someone not in one of the FA groups, do I have to wait until all of the FA groups have been bid on or can I bid on the player right away when Free Agency starts?
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Re: finalized Free Agent Groups thread(link included)

Postby DVauthrin » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:53 am

RocketsDWM wrote:If I want to bid on someone not in one of the FA groups, do I have to wait until all of the FA groups have been bid on or can I bid on the player right away when Free Agency starts?


players not listed in any of the groups can be bid on after all the groups have finished.
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Winning bids in 2011-2012 Free Agency

Postby DVauthrin » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:54 am

they will go here.
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Re: finalized Free Agent Groups thread(link included)

Postby dasein » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:03 am

scully19 wrote: 15% might be a little useful in cases where you have cap space next year but not this year and can backload contracts more then. Really though, on a contract with a first year value of 10 mill. you increase of 10% is 11 mill the second year, 13.3m for last year. 15% is 11.5 second year and 15.2. So .5 mill the second year and 1.9 in the fourth year. Is this really worth the effort of tracking every player and their contract lengths for?


Aww crap, looks like i didn't make it explict in the rules that the yearly increase is a fixed amount: BYS.r. Thats how it's done in the examples, but I didn't put it into words. :-? I'll have to amend it.

So if we have a 3 yr contract with BYS of 10 and r of 10%, we have 10+11+12 = 33

As to the argument that the $ difference isn't that much...isn't that an argument for the 15%?
The BR team can offer 10+11.5+13 = 34.5. Not that much difference, but the result is that they win the player. But like I said before, time will tell whether we find this worth the hassel of tracking.
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Re: finalized Free Agent Groups thread(link included)

Postby scully19 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:30 am

dasein wrote:
scully19 wrote: 15% might be a little useful in cases where you have cap space next year but not this year and can backload contracts more then. Really though, on a contract with a first year value of 10 mill. you increase of 10% is 11 mill the second year, 13.3m for last year. 15% is 11.5 second year and 15.2. So .5 mill the second year and 1.9 in the fourth year. Is this really worth the effort of tracking every player and their contract lengths for?


Aww crap, looks like i didn't make it explict in the rules that the yearly increase is a fixed amount: BYS.r. Thats how it's done in the examples, but I didn't put it into words. :-? I'll have to amend it.

So if we have a 3 yr contract with BYS of 10 and r of 10%, we have 10+11+12 = 33

As to the argument that the $ difference isn't that much...isn't that an argument for the 15%?
The BR team can offer 10+11.5+13 = 34.5. Not that much difference, but the result is that they win the player. But like I said before, time will tell whether we find this worth the hassel of tracking.

Sure they win the bid, but they could have won it just as easily if they bid 10.5+11.5+12.5 = 34.5. They saved .5 the first year and spent .5 more the 3rd. Hardly worth it IMO.
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Re: finalized Free Agent Groups thread(link included)

Postby dasein » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:42 am

scully19 wrote:Sure they win the bid, but they could have won it just as easily if they bid 10.5+11.5+12.5 = 34.5. They saved .5 the first year and spent .5 more the 3rd. Hardly worth it IMO.


sure, you could be right. There will probably be a number of things we want to tweak for net season. It's hard to foresee everything.

Having said that, I'm sure it would be a simple thing to set up a spreadsheet where you just input N, BYS, r numbers into columns and it spits out everything else. I appreciate that you've put a lot of work into setting up the spreadsheet the way it is and probably wouldn't want to change it. My point is that keeping track of this information needn't be difficult.
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Re: finalized Free Agent Groups thread(link included)

Postby scully19 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:48 am

I have an easy way. All FA in the FA section will have names attached to them to represent their bird rights team. Problem is going through all the free agents for who has 2 year contracts and applying them all.
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Re: 2011-2012 trade thread

Postby nsink » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:56 am

Traded David lee and 2012 2nd for 2012 1st from fenris

i confirm - he needs to stipulate which 1st (now not after season)
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Re: 2011-2012 trade thread

Postby Fenris-77 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:03 am

You bsaid the 1st was conditional - whichever of my two was worst...
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