dasein wrote:I'm not seeing the weird loophole jim. Lets use Roy as an example, say he was on a 2 year contract starting 2012-13. Now let say he started playing that season, got hurt (no imagination needed so far) and retired in January of the same season.
The way I think we would have handled this is his contract would still have counted for 2012-13 and been voided the following offseason. Would we have allowed the contract to be voided immediately upon the retirement announcement in Jan? No, I don't think so. Would we have allowed the manager to waive the contract at 75%? Hard to imagine we would not have- there are no other limitations on dropping contracts.
Well, assuming the manager can waive the contract after the mid-season retirement, once the offseason rolls around the situation looks identical to the Kidd version. In both cases we have a player who has
1. been waived with years still owing, and
I'm not seeing that the order of operation makes a difference here, as long as we maintain the next available offseason requirement.
Let's use Kobe Bryant as an example. He's owed 13.5M this season and 13.5 next season. Let's say during this season the Lakers are horrible and he decides that this will be his last season since his real life contract expires and he decided to play overseas or whatever (injury too). And he has a Mariano Rivera type last season. Theoretically if I'm on a crappy team who isn't winning, or is he truly retires in the middle of the season, I have no reason to wait until the offseason to exercise the retired rule. I simply waive him now and free up 3.375M to spend this current season either via trade or free agent signing.
Basically if anyone retires I'd waive them immediately bypassing the rules of player retirement that requires I wait until the off season. I think the point of having the wait time was that guys say they are retiring a lot, and this forces some closure. In addition a retired player having his entire salary waived with no penalty to the manager is a pretty nice benefit that maybe shouldn't be tossed around so freely.
The other part to this is that after nsink waived Kidd, I actually picked him up and had him one a deal. Granted he's currently a free agent, but what would happen if Kidd did retire and I still had him on contract? Both nsink and I would get to waive his contract at no penalty? That seems weird.
Like I said I'm not 100% sold on my point of view. I'm just discussing.